Audiobus: Use your music apps together.
What is Audiobus? — Audiobus is an award-winning music app for iPhone and iPad which lets you use your other music apps together. Chain effects on your favourite synth, run the output of apps or Audio Units into an app like GarageBand or Loopy, or select a different audio interface output for each app. Route MIDI between apps — drive a synth from a MIDI sequencer, or add an arpeggiator to your MIDI keyboard — or sync with your external MIDI gear. And control your entire setup from a MIDI controller.
Download on the App StoreAudiobus is the app that makes the rest of your setup better.
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Almost any piece of gear can make good music
Nothing wrong with creative limitations or focused UI. My point was that electribe mk2's aren't exactly top of the tree in terms of functionality to aspire toward, even when they first were released. Which is fine cos they're cheap. And as those vids show, theres plenty you can do with them if you pull the best out of it.
But things like small file browser/fiddly note editing etc aren't aspects that I'd judge to merit vehemently replicating given the screen real estate of an ipad. Mimicking/not improving those compromised hardware aspects just feels kinda stubborn and needlessly 'cut your nose to spite your face' imo... Each to their own tho.
@Iostress - hope I don’t piss you off saying this, but I had a tough time wading through all the snark in your OP. You had great points, but weakened it with all the sarcasm. Unfortunately we all tend to take the bait - thus the backlash. Respect for taking the time to send such specific feedback though.
That said, I can’t help feeling that you’re looking for more out of this than the target audience is. Reading your description, I honestly don’t think I’d be attracted to that product, at least not in light of all the rest I have available. If I want something deep like you describe I’m gonna pull out Gadget, BM3 or something.
If I just want to jam or maybe perform on something GR scratches that itch. I hope it gets a few refinements here and there, but essentially, I hope @jimpavloff keeps this true to its spirit and current form without a lot of feature bloat. It isn’t going to be for everyone, but it sure is for me.
But, your tone and enormous list of complains is making a lot of us others lovers sad...
The developer of Groove Rider GR-16 has made an incredible work with this app, and, you complain just like you just have paid $200 for this instead of just ten bucks...
This is iOS, not yet 100% perfect, but, in the near future when apps is in $200 pricetag, come back and complain and wining like a spolied child...
Before the update, if I edited all 16 of my sample slices, I couldn’t sequence them. Only play/record them while in slice mode.
Has that changed with the update?
I have the same problem...
After the slice is done, what to do to lay out the 16 sliced sounds on each pad?
It may be described in the manual...? ;-)
apparently you press SLICE BUTTON again then each pad will expand to the other pads for sequencing-I've not tested as yet
@jimpavloff Tutorial videos needed. Just a few
WTF? 'spoiled child'. For real? No need to cast that kind of judgement dude. You don't know me.
You have confused 'suggestions for improvement' with whining entitlement.
You are aware that there's a whole world outside of iPad yeah? Organelle patches for example are FREE. Devs work hard on them nonetheless. And people still make suggestions for improvement and everyone's cool with it. Without the weird over-protective nonsense this thread is littered with. Someone recently mimic'd a bunch of pedals for organelle which would have cost £1000+ in hardware... For free. And still accepted suggestions and feedback... And don't get me started on VCV rack in terms of being the opposite of free/cheap = be content and shut up. People are brainstorming to develop it as far as possible.
Finding flaws and striving for improvement is how things advance....nothing wrong with that as long as it's done with consideration and optimism.
No offense but things like adding a 2nd params page (accommodating stuff like retrig/roll, 2nd lfo, oscilloscope display being replaced by deeper fx params display, filter ADSR envelope etc..) and making the browser/note edit views expandable and adding some extra fx and simple 'timestrech on/off' etc would still make this app nothing at all like BM3/Cubasis/gadget. That's like saying an electribe is a groovebox but an Octatrack is the same as Pro Tools. Sorry but that's nonsense....
I guess you can look at it two ways -
1 - leave it as it is and users that are looking for slightly deeper sound design and more convenient editing workflow just avoid it.....Which equals lost sales for dev and missed potential.
2 - Add a little extra depth/functions on a 2nd params page. Make browser and note edit pages expandable (these are all things that currently contented users can choose to totally ignore and have zero impact on the app) and power users can dig in whilst basic users have their experience un-altered. Appeal to both types of user = more hype/more sales.
Pretty sure the latter makes more sense for both dev and users? Just my opinion though..
Cheers. More after a step-by-step tutorial of the basics, than a list of functions, but I’ll keep the link handy for when I’m up and running.
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Thanks, yeah I missed that too. I’ll watch Doug’s vid again, he goes through a few of the basics.
Best of Poison-202 presets sample pack... at least that's what I'm currently working on.
Thats a good question...I'll go with 'Zee' or 'They' next time. Maybe it was the pink in the avatar that threw me.
@lostress Well why dont you code an app then and call it "Lo Fi Stress" I suggested a couple things as with other users - one week in and @jimpavloff has sorted it - impressive
Give the dev a chance - it's only been a week
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This what I was thinking...then I later read "lo" "stress". Let me guess more responses to me regarding my misgendering someone who'm I have never seen? Hell for all I know, some you all with masculine sounding names might actually be women.
My minor error was really more about "hope". "hope" that there were more women in this art form.
I never demanded anything
just voiced my impressions of the app. Same as everyone else has. Then i got ganged on for being in the minority that doesn't feel like it's quite up to the hype yet... Pretty strange production forum!?
Can't check atm but is it possible to name/save/browse sound patches in GR16? Like sample/synth + fx/lfo/filter settings etc? Or only possible to save raw samples/oscs?
I was at a coffee shop on my iPhone... it's just an SE small screen so I didn't want to go through all the hassle of trying it out for myself until I got back to the iPad. It sounds like might now be sequence-able after slice editing by the sound of this. Hope so! Love that you can edit each slice, but would prefer to be able to sequence the edited slices rather than only play/record in slice mode as before.
The update description reads like it's been made to work as I was hoping for though.
@Iostress
Exactly! I could be a total "funny guy" and make a blanket statement assuming we got a bunch of PC / Tandy / Ham operators on this thread, all excited about a new iOS file system no other iPad musician is that remotely interested in. It's just the right personality type that is so concerned with me taking a wild guess on your gender.
So did I make a mistake or has my guess started a ripple effect outing those who might be uncomfortable that a "Girrrrrl" might be making great beat music along side them?
@lostress whether your male and female or male or female you live up to your name - now walk proud and make beatz..no stress
@ExAsperis99
Ahhhh @Iostress was not picking a fight...they are as surprised as I am to have seen that the last FIVE comments to ME was about my original gender guess.
@Iostress At the moment it's not possible to save sound patches. This was a similar problem with the Electribe 2's.
However there is a light at the end of the tunnel here. Because the @jimpavloff has used the same exact sound engine as his last app 'Poison', he is looking to update that app with an export feature. This update would take sound patches made and saved in Poison and spits the data out as a file GR-16 would be able to import into the app. Using Poison to make custom sound files is a much better option since that app is so much deeper and has the kind of control and editing features you were asking about before. Once this is implemented, buying Poison will be worth every penny and the new OS 11 file system would be useful. I still say that what ever file exporting @jimpavloff decides to do, I sure hope he gives us options to use iCloud over the new file app. I pay monthly for the extended space on iCloud, I'd rather use that for my iPad files.
Thanks for info. Cool, I haven't got Poison but sounds like it will maybe make sense to cop it at some point.
Does poison support sample based patches too and have sample patch param settings that would translate to GR-16? That's where I've been having most fun with sounds on GR16, with samples and the basic sound design... They're the sounds I'd most like to save as patches for future browsing/loading.
Seems like it should be possible inside the app tho really? For sample patches at least? Without necessity to buy Poison? Tho I realise that purchase will also make sense due to being able to dial in deeper synth based patch settings.
@lostress Poison is a straight synth, no samples, no sampling! Also this feature for Poison has only been discussed. No word as to when Jim will be able to get to it. Unless you see Poison on sale or unless you just really like the sounds you hear on Youtube Poison reviews, wait till Jim does implement this new feature.
Saving the sound patches inside GR is planned and already in development. No need in buying Poison for this. Besides, as I mentioned somewhere above, Poison and GR are based on the same engine, but they are NOT cross-compatible. GR has totally different parameter structure. Most of Poison's parameters were ripped away to simplify and speed-up the engine and limit the spectrum of possible sounds to a good range of sounds for most needs, giving a user an ability to more easily achieve a working sound he can already use, in comparison to Poison-202.
Cool, thnx for heads up.
Thanks for info @jimpavloff
Will be cool to see this functionality arrive when you get the chance to implement it
Oh wow! Even better. Nice work @jimpavloff. I remember you saying that the two apps were not compatible which why I thought you were doing a special file export through the fill app but hell, way better news, dude.
This sounds great, I would be interested in buying a sound bank from JimAudio or one of the other talented sound designers on this forum.